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hetzner.de hardware policies

So I use Hetzner a lot for my machines, I’ve about 10 to 15 of their machines now across various clients and am mostly quite happy with them.  They provide a service that matches the price – ie. good enough.

One area of their service though really grates me, they give you old machines, when those machines fail they replace them with other old machines similarly for drives etc.

On more than one occasion now have I had hard drives fail only to see them replaced with other shitty drives.  Each time they claim the drives are well tested and each time they pull the old ‘it could be the cable’ trick and then replace the machine and the drive.

Since this has happened to me every single time I’ve changed a disk so far I have to wonder if this is everyones experience? 

From where I sit its simple.  They made a choice to take out drives reported broken by someone, they then test it and put it back when their tests fail to find any problem, they do this to save them money knowing full well that drives will fail and all they’re doing is shifting the risk onto their clients, while the clients keep subsidizing their expansion. 

So given this is the quality of service they’re aiming at, surely once this policy bites a good long standing user offering some kind of payback for the inconvenience would be good business practice?  Apparently not.

This is pretty poor, even after complaining to them they swapped my chassis and again put a disk with > 6000 hours under its belt in my machine.

So I guess you need to be pretty sure your softraids are setup properly when you want to use this company, their support stand is clear:

I’m sorry but we don’t promise anywhere that we built always new hardware into our servers. I can only ensure you that all hardware is always well tested and without any problem before we build it into a server.

Ie., screw you, we don’t care for any evidence and repeated failures, and we take zero responsibility for our equipment, we’ll just keep taking your money.

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Layeredtech’s thanks to old customers

I have been a customer of Layeredtech for years, at present I have only 2 machines there but at times I’ve had 7 or 8.  My one machine is pretty old, I think I got it circa 2002 or so and it’s been doing well, same hardware etc.

Yesterday I received the following email from them:

Layered Tech is committed to being the leader of the Hosted
Infrastructure market by providing our customers with the best products
backed by the best service.  In an effort to improve our customer
experience, we have determined that a small number of existing servers
will need to be relocated from their current data center.  As you are
receiving this message, we have identified that you have one or more
servers in the in area of the Savvis facility that will need to be
moved.  It is our intention to minimize any interruption in service and
we will do our best to work within predetermined time frames that are
convenient to you.

Due to the form factor (chassis type) of
this server, we will need to migrate your data to a new server. We will
work with you so that the impact is as minimal as possible.  

Below
are the servers that are affected by this migration.  Please respond to
this message acknowledging the need to relocate your server(s).  At
that point, we will move this ticket to our Operations Department where
we will work with you on a migration schedule.

From reading this you might assume they will assist you with the migrate and this is a notice of an impending change, perhaps a month or two from now?

In reality the situation is that no, they will not help you migrate your data.  They want you to take out a contract for a new machine and then migrate your data yourself – something which even at best will take 5 to 10 hours on oldish machines like this.

They do not offer any compensation, and when pressed on that point only offer 1 month…the cherry on the cake is that all this has to be done for 18 days from now, in effect they are terminating your old machine forcing you to take a new one and doing it with less than the agreed 30 days notice.  Like it or not.

The sales person who has been coordinating this from their side is incredibly unhelpful and frankly useless, only after much pushing back by me do I even get a hint that anything other than do-it-yourself migration is an option, at this point still waiting for details.

This kind of disregard for customers is typical of large hosting centres, they have thousands of customers and their hard handed handling of their customers is acceptable because at worse they’ll loose a fraction of a percentage of customers, so being unhelpful really does pay off for them since most people will probably just take this crap.

This is shockingly poor service, if you value your data, avoid Layeredtech.

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